Zillion TW HD ‘22

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by ss30378 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:17 am

So made in Japan?

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by robertjb7771 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:40 pm

Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22
Post by ss30378 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:17 pm

So made in Japan? )

Yes , the reel is made in japan, (made in japan sticker is on the bottom of the reel seat stem.

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by HobeyBaker » Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:05 pm

I wish the reel was all matte black. I ended up ordering another standard Zillion instead of the HD. I’m looking for more of a flip/pitch reel, so I doubt the spool upgrade is worth the price difference.

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by Kimbro1014 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:37 pm

Hobey Baker,

At first I also wished it was all matte black. What I’d say is I’m now glad it isn’t. As I fished with it the last couple of days I’ve noticed the matte hood gets a bit more slippery as the reel gets wet. The shiny paint on the rest of the reel as well as the standard Zillion gets a bit more grippy when wet or stays at least as grippy when dry.

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by robertjb7771 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:38 pm

Unread post by HobeyBaker » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:05 pm

I wish the reel was all matte black. I ended up ordering another standard Zillion instead of the HD. I’m looking for more of a flip/pitch reel, so I doubt the spool upgrade is worth the price difference. )

i understand how you feel, for some reason i thought it was all matte black as well, i guess the official photos ( in black & white) are a bit deceptive , don't understand why they didn't follow through with the matte on the entire reel. I own a Daiwa P/F talula elite and honestly its not too far from this plus it has the gear engage function. I paid $366 usd ( including shipping) for this reel so i guess it depends on how you look at it, i know the 100mm handle which i absolutely love retails for close to $100 usd. Also this has Brass gearing vs the jdm zillion sv tw which has aluminum gearing ( $ 290 vs zillion G US model that has brass gears $350).

Build quality and tolerances feel exactly like the regular zillion sv tw, just not the overbuilt reel you get with the 19 zillion HD which i previously mentioned is one of my favorite reels ( punches way above its weight, seen numerous videos of it been used to catch Barramundi & Asian catfish), i feel like im cheating when i pair it up with my shimano expride 7'11 when Punching from a kayak. Shimano doesn't have anything close to it in terms of indestructability out right now ( i own a 18 MD antares & current 21 anteres, ,metanium, bantum ) in the low profile form factor. ( Shimano round reels aside)

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by HobeyBaker » Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:16 pm

robertjb7771 wrote:
Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:38 pm
Unread post by HobeyBaker » Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:05 pm

I wish the reel was all matte black. I ended up ordering another standard Zillion instead of the HD. I’m looking for more of a flip/pitch reel, so I doubt the spool upgrade is worth the price difference. )

i understand how you feel, for some reason i thought it was all matte black as well, i guess the official photos ( in black & white) are a bit deceptive , don't understand why they didn't follow through with the matte on the entire reel. I own a Daiwa P/F talula elite and honestly its not too far from this plus it has the gear engage function. I paid $366 usd ( including shipping) for this reel so i guess it depends on how you look at it, i know the 100mm handle which i absolutely love retails for close to $100 usd. Also this has Brass gearing vs the jdm zillion sv tw which has aluminum gearing ( $ 290 vs zillion G US model that has brass gears $350).

Build quality and tolerances feel exactly like the regular zillion sv tw, just not the overbuilt reel you get with the 19 zillion HD which i previously mentioned is one of my favorite reels ( punches way above its weight, seen numerous videos of it been used to catch Barramundi & Asian catfish), i feel like im cheating when i pair it up with my shimano expride 7'11 when Punching from a kayak. Shimano doesn't have anything close to it in terms of indestructability out right now ( i own a 18 MD antares & current 21 anteres, ,metanium, bantum ) in the low profile form factor. ( Shimano round reels aside)
I hear you about the handle. I have a 102 mm Studio Composite handle that I’ll be putting on this reel, so it wasn’t a decision changer for me.

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by doomtrprz71 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:08 pm

I actually have a quandary now, I bought the tw hd and completely forgot that I just bought a z2020, guess they'll just have to go head to head :mrgreen:

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by Kimbro1014 » Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:32 am

That’s the only reasonable thing to do Doom!

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by LowRange » Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:15 am

doomtrprz71 wrote:
Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:08 pm
I actually have a quandary now, I bought the tw hd and completely forgot that I just bought a z2020, guess they'll just have to go head to head :mrgreen:
I would keep both. They are lightyears apart. One is a 38mm wide spool over 9 oz reel and the other is a 34mm narrow spool sub 7 oz reel. If it was the old Zillion HD vs the Z2020 then those two are more similar in size, weight and capacity with the Z2020 just being the superior reel with braid but I would give the nod to the old Zillion HD for big non braid use. Both reels are 1 oz and up reels for me. Once I go below an oz I want a normal sized bass reel.

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by doomtrprz71 » Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:19 am

LowRange wrote:
Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:15 am
doomtrprz71 wrote:
Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:08 pm
I actually have a quandary now, I bought the tw hd and completely forgot that I just bought a z2020, guess they'll just have to go head to head :mrgreen:
I would keep both. They are lightyears apart. One is a 38mm wide spool over 9 oz reel and the other is a 34mm narrow spool sub 7 oz reel. If it was the old Zillion HD vs the Z2020 then those two are more similar in size, weight and capacity with the Z2020 just being the superior reel with braid but I would give the nod to the old Zillion HD for big non braid use. Both reels are 1 oz and up reels for me. Once I go below an oz I want a normal sized bass reel.
I'll definitely be keeping both, it just throws my rearrangement of combos out of whack that I just did

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by doomtrprz71 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:42 pm

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by Johnny A » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:45 am

3 hours of fishing this morning. Casting? In a word? Effortless.

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by Kimbro1014 » Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:49 pm

It’s really really easy to fall in love with this reel and the Zillion platform JohnnyA.

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by Johnny A » Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:49 pm

Kimbro1014 wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:49 pm
It’s really really easy to fall in love with this reel and the Zillion platform JohnnyA.
I got 3 of the Zillion 10s, 3 of the 1000XHs and now the HD.

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Re: Zillion TW HD ‘22

Post by Dalleinf » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:42 pm

The reel is now on digitaka (45.000 jpy) and amazon in Japan and on more sites.

I am divided on this one. I have two of the latest Morethans and two recent Zillions… I normally install ZPI/KTF spools and therefore not sure if anything is gained by getting the new Zillion (although pretty 😊)

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