Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by zpelletier » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:38 am

dennis_rf wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:20 am
Does anyone know where the 80 and 70 have their bearings located? It’s the same amount (7 + RB) as the Alphas so I’m wondering if they actually do have that double supported pinion. I personally wouldn’t mind the long shaft, double support is the deal breaker with Tatulas.
For the 70, Daiwa’s website says it has “Hyper Double Support”

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by daiwafan » Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:23 pm

Headed back home from the Classic Expo.
Big shout out to Bronzefly who hooked me up with a Tatula 80. I’ll get the bearings changed out and fish it tomorrow a little bit.

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by rto » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:08 pm

daiwafan wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:23 pm
Headed back home from the Classic Expo.
Big shout out to Bronzefly who hooked me up with a Tatula 80. I’ll get the bearings changed out and fish it tomorrow a little bit.
Any chance you'd post a picture of the schematic?

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by joekaz » Sat Mar 05, 2022 7:28 pm

zpelletier wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:30 pm
Anyone planning on getting the 70 or 80?

Just curious
It looks like the 80 is going to be available first, so I am going to try that one, but If I can feel the mag dial sticking out on my index finger, it is a no go for me.

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by dennis_rf » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:15 am

zpelletier wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:38 am

For the 70, Daiwa’s website says it has “Hyper Double Support”
My gut feeling says it’s rather a copy-paste-error than reality :D
rto wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:08 pm
Any chance you'd post a picture of the schematic?
Daiwa seems to not include schematics anymore, at least for the last 3 alphas + zillions I got from Japan.

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

Post by daiwafan » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:46 am

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

Post by daiwafan » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:51 am

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

Post by DirtyD64 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:26 am

Wow so it is actually pretty small. This bearing argument has left me confused. I wish someone with the Alphas could clear it up for us. The new Zillion has nine, 2 spool, 2 mainshaft, 2 pinion, 1 anti reverse, and 2 in the handle. The Alphas has one less, it scares me into thinking they removed a mainshaft bearing. That or it has ZERO knob bearings and one on the levelwind (would be better), the old Alphas/SV105 had 2 mainshaft bearings.

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

Post by daiwafan » Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:07 am

Yeah it's small. I don't own one of the new Alphas TWS reels but I imagine it's pretty much the same size. The Tatula 70 is identical except for the smaller SV spool. I got to handle the 70 too but it will not be available for another month or so.
I was told that the 70 will not be available for the JDM, US only. I don't fully understand why unless they don't want to dilute the sale of more BFS specific models like the Alphas and Alphas Air.

The 80 I bought from Bronzefly is exceptionally smooth and is the 7.1 ratio. My buddy bought an 8.1 and I didn't reel it but will later today as we are going fishing later.

I am also gonna weigh the spool once I get to my shop, tear it apart and install air bearings in it before taking it out to try and catch a New River Smallie. I asked Marc Mills if he had weighed the spools of the 70 and 80 yet but he had not and we did not have access to a scale at the booth.

I think I will do the initial field test with it mounted on a Steez Utility player but it won't stay on that rod as I love it with a Steez reel on it.

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

Post by LowRange » Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:53 am

daiwafan wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:07 am
Yeah it's small. I don't own one of the new Alphas TWS reels but I imagine it's pretty much the same size. The Tatula 70 is identical except for the smaller SV spool. I got to handle the 70 too but it will not be available for another month or so.
I was told that the 70 will not be available for the JDM, US only. I don't fully understand why unless they don't want to dilute the sale of more BFS specific models like the Alphas and Alphas Air.

The 80 I bought from Bronzefly is exceptionally smooth and is the 7.1 ratio. My buddy bought an 8.1 and I didn't reel it but will later today as we are going fishing later.

I am also gonna weigh the spool once I get to my shop, tear it apart and install air bearings in it before taking it out to try and catch a New River Smallie. I asked Marc Mills if he had weighed the spools of the 70 and 80 yet but he had not and we did not have access to a scale at the booth.

I think I will do the initial field test with it mounted on a Steez Utility player but it won't stay on that rod as I love it with a Steez reel on it.
When you say that the 70 is identical except the smaller 30mm spool, do you mean it is identical to the Alphas TW? That would be a dream come true. A black Alphas TW with a round mag dial and 30mm spool compatible with the Steez CT. Probably not the case. I can't imagine Daiwa doing that and basically making a poor man's Steez CT.

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

Post by ss30378 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:57 am

DirtyD64 wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:26 am
Wow so it is actually pretty small. This bearing argument has left me confused. I wish someone with the Alphas could clear it up for us. The new Zillion has nine, 2 spool, 2 mainshaft, 2 pinion, 1 anti reverse, and 2 in the handle. The Alphas has one less, it scares me into thinking they removed a mainshaft bearing. That or it has ZERO knob bearings and one on the levelwind (would be better), the old Alphas/SV105 had 2 mainshaft bearings.
The alphas knobs have all bushings from the factory. Main shaft has 2 bearings plus the RB.

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

Post by daiwafan » Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:51 am

LowRange wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:53 am
daiwafan wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:07 am
Yeah it's small. I don't own one of the new Alphas TWS reels but I imagine it's pretty much the same size. The Tatula 70 is identical except for the smaller SV spool. I got to handle the 70 too but it will not be available for another month or so.
I was told that the 70 will not be available for the JDM, US only. I don't fully understand why unless they don't want to dilute the sale of more BFS specific models like the Alphas and Alphas Air.

The 80 I bought from Bronzefly is exceptionally smooth and is the 7.1 ratio. My buddy bought an 8.1 and I didn't reel it but will later today as we are going fishing later.

I am also gonna weigh the spool once I get to my shop, tear it apart and install air bearings in it before taking it out to try and catch a New River Smallie. I asked Marc Mills if he had weighed the spools of the 70 and 80 yet but he had not and we did not have access to a scale at the booth.

I think I will do the initial field test with it mounted on a Steez Utility player but it won't stay on that rod as I love it with a Steez reel on it.
When you say that the 70 is identical except the smaller 30mm spool, do you mean it is identical to the Alphas TW? That would be a dream come true. A black Alphas TW with a round mag dial and 30mm spool compatible with the Steez CT. Probably not the case. I can't imagine Daiwa doing that and basically making a poor man's Steez CT.
Identical to the Tatula 80

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Re: Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

Post by LowRange » Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:05 am

daiwafan wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:51 am
LowRange wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:53 am
daiwafan wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:07 am
Yeah it's small. I don't own one of the new Alphas TWS reels but I imagine it's pretty much the same size. The Tatula 70 is identical except for the smaller SV spool. I got to handle the 70 too but it will not be available for another month or so.
I was told that the 70 will not be available for the JDM, US only. I don't fully understand why unless they don't want to dilute the sale of more BFS specific models like the Alphas and Alphas Air.

The 80 I bought from Bronzefly is exceptionally smooth and is the 7.1 ratio. My buddy bought an 8.1 and I didn't reel it but will later today as we are going fishing later.

I am also gonna weigh the spool once I get to my shop, tear it apart and install air bearings in it before taking it out to try and catch a New River Smallie. I asked Marc Mills if he had weighed the spools of the 70 and 80 yet but he had not and we did not have access to a scale at the booth.

I think I will do the initial field test with it mounted on a Steez Utility player but it won't stay on that rod as I love it with a Steez reel on it.
When you say that the 70 is identical except the smaller 30mm spool, do you mean it is identical to the Alphas TW? That would be a dream come true. A black Alphas TW with a round mag dial and 30mm spool compatible with the Steez CT. Probably not the case. I can't imagine Daiwa doing that and basically making a poor man's Steez CT.
Identical to the Tatula 80
Ah, I figured as much. Thanks for clearing that up.

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