Project T 22: 2 new Tatulas

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by jvelth74 » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:13 am

I think in tatula 70 is same dimensioned spool than in ct Alphas? What frame is? New or same as other 'old' reel?

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by LowRange » Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:24 am

jvelth74 wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:13 am
I think in tatula 70 is same dimensioned spool than in ct Alphas? What frame is? New or same as other 'old' reel?
The frame is the same size as the Alphas TW but the spool uses a long shaft and is 32mm.

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by LowRange » Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:01 am

No Tatula 70 SV on Daiwa Japan's site. Looks like this one is USDM only. Instead of a Alphas we get Tatula 70 SV based on the same platform but with a long shaft spool. The drag numbers are the same as the Alphas TW so maybe the main gear is very similar if not identical. With an MSRP of $229 we should see a street price of closer to $200. Might need a Ray's inductor swap to wake the spool up but those are cheap. I was looking at Cal's Alphas TW preview and that thing has got a long and thick inductor. I'll bet this new reel is very similar.

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by DirtyD64 » Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:20 pm

LowRange wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:01 am
No Tatula 70 SV on Daiwa Japan's site. Looks like this one is USDM only. Instead of a Alphas we get Tatula 70 SV based on the same platform but with a long shaft spool. The drag numbers are the same as the Alphas TW so maybe the main gear is very similar if not identical. With an MSRP of $229 we should see a street price of closer to $200. Might need a Ray's inductor swap to wake the spool up but those are cheap. I was looking at Cal's Alphas TW preview and that thing has got a long and thick inductor. I'll bet this new reel is very similar.
Wait, the Alphas SVTW is overbraked too?

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by iabass8 » Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:45 pm

LowRange wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:24 am

The frame is the same size as the Alphas TW but the spool uses a long shaft and is 32mm.
Tatula sv70 is a 30mm spool. At least according to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihgBaO ... l=DaiwaUSA
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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by rto » Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:04 pm

From the Daiwa US website


The literature claims Hyper Double support.
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The graphic of the SV spool shows a short shaft.
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https://daiwa.us/collections/baitcastin ... atula-sv70

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by iabass8 » Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:14 pm

rto wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:04 pm
From the Daiwa US website


The literature claims Hyper Double support.
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The graphic of the SV spool shows a short shaft.
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https://daiwa.us/collections/baitcastin ... atula-sv70
That's the same graphic daiwa uses for all their SV spool reels...including the Coastal, SV103 limited, tatula SV, etc that aren't free floating. They use the same graphics a lot. don't read too much into it.

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by rando » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:49 pm

I think US market for Daiwa reels is kind of weird with prices and products. Im not sure why would I get one of these over alphas.

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by LowRange » Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:59 pm

iabass8 wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:45 pm
LowRange wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:24 am

The frame is the same size as the Alphas TW but the spool uses a long shaft and is 32mm.
Tatula sv70 is a 30mm spool. At least according to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihgBaO ... l=DaiwaUSA
I was referring to the 80 but you are correct. I proposed earlier that the 70 SV looked to be about a 30 mm spool which is now confirmed thanks to your link.
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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by LowRange » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:00 pm

DirtyD64 wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:20 pm
LowRange wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:01 am
No Tatula 70 SV on Daiwa Japan's site. Looks like this one is USDM only. Instead of a Alphas we get Tatula 70 SV based on the same platform but with a long shaft spool. The drag numbers are the same as the Alphas TW so maybe the main gear is very similar if not identical. With an MSRP of $229 we should see a street price of closer to $200. Might need a Ray's inductor swap to wake the spool up but those are cheap. I was looking at Cal's Alphas TW preview and that thing has got a long and thick inductor. I'll bet this new reel is very similar.
Wait, the Alphas SVTW is overbraked too?
I don't have one but it looks to be based on what I am seeing. I would definitely inductor swap one if I had one.

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by zpelletier » Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:30 pm

Anyone planning on getting the 70 or 80?

Just curious

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by LowRange » Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:17 pm

zpelletier wrote:
Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:30 pm
Anyone planning on getting the 70 or 80?

Just curious
Maybe a 70 SV. I would opt for an Alphas but they are that damn silver color. For the same street price I get what is probably going to be a long shaft black Alphas TW SV called a Tatula? I'll take that. For now I'm eying the 100 to drop an elite spool in and to pair to a cheaper solid tip MH. For a higher end version of that stick as a replacement after a few years I will consider the 70 SV. If I didn't already have the elite spool forcing my hand to a 100 I would consider both reels and probably opt for the 80 if it can skip as well as the elite spool which is actually pretty good.
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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by dennis_rf » Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:20 am

Does anyone know where the 80 and 70 have their bearings located? It’s the same amount (7 + RB) as the Alphas so I’m wondering if they actually do have that double supported pinion. I personally wouldn’t mind the long shaft, double support is the deal breaker with Tatulas.

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by DirtyD64 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:52 am

dennis_rf wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:20 am
Does anyone know where the 80 and 70 have their bearings located? It’s the same amount (7 + RB) as the Alphas so I’m wondering if they actually do have that double supported pinion. I personally wouldn’t mind the long shaft, double support is the deal breaker with Tatulas.
I wondered this too. I assume the Alphas is: 2 spool, 2 pinion, 2 main gear, 1 anti reverse, and ??? Maybe levelwind?
For the Tatula, it is for sure: 2 spool, 1 pinion, 2 main gear, 1 anti reverse, and 2 in the handle, for 8 total.

What scares me is if the Alphas SVTW has one knob per handle and they removed a main shaft bearing for some reason. I'm pretty sure the old SV105 had no knob bearings and 2 on the mainshaft, had 7 total. I wish someone with the new Alphas could clarify. I know Hobie has broken one down on the Tube.

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Re: Project T 22 #6: another Tatula

Post by dennis_rf » Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:18 am

I have the Alphas and there are only bushings in the knobs. The 7th bearing is on the level wind

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