New Steez A II vs High End Shimano’s

[goldrod]

Both of them gives the me the same distance from my wallet

LMAO...gotta not reach so high up on dat top shelf Homie.

yeah... i am going back to my first love nowadays.. TDZ

[dragon1]

Both of them gives the me the same distance from my wallet

LMAO...gotta not reach so high up on dat top shelf Homie.

yeah... i am going back to my first love nowadays.. TDZ

I have a tuned TD Fuego and Ian tuned TD-ITO 103M in rotation constantly.

[goldrod]

Both of them gives the me the same distance from my wallet

LMAO...gotta not reach so high up on dat top shelf Homie.

yeah... i am going back to my first love nowadays.. TDZ

I have a tuned TD Fuego and Ian tuned TD-ITO 103M in rotation constantly.

The reel that never dies.. .

I do feel like the Steez A II is great machine out of the box ( at least in my experiences) however I think the beauty of all daiwa reels is their versatility with spool options

[Chode]

Imho, if anyone says either one is superior to the other, then they are splitting hairs. There is plenty to like about either brand and it comes down to personal preference. I'm a Daiwa guy, because I like consistent control. This comes at the price of a slightly lessened distance, which Im ok with. Centrifugal brakes just aren't as consistent as mag braking. That fact can't be argued. Why else would Shimano put mag braking on their BFS offerings? Simple answer is that consistent control is needed when tossing the light stuff, and mag brakes deliver that. I'm in no way throwing shade, just stating a fact.

What about their dc line like the slx dc xt 70? Does it exhibit consistent control? Is it better, worse, or same? ty

[Cracker]

Imho, if anyone says either one is superior to the other, then they are splitting hairs. There is plenty to like about either brand and it comes down to personal preference. I'm a Daiwa guy, because I like consistent control. This comes at the price of a slightly lessened distance, which Im ok with. Centrifugal brakes just aren't as consistent as mag braking. That fact can't be argued. Why else would Shimano put mag braking on their BFS offerings? Simple answer is that consistent control is needed when tossing the light stuff, and mag brakes deliver that. I'm in no way throwing shade, just stating a fact.

Is this applies to Daiwa SV spools only?
I don't own the SV Boost spool yet, however Youtube video I print screaned below - makes me thinking of buying 2020 Met instead...

[goldrod]

Imho, if anyone says either one is superior to the other, then they are splitting hairs. There is plenty to like about either brand and it comes down to personal preference. I'm a Daiwa guy, because I like consistent control. This comes at the price of a slightly lessened distance, which Im ok with. Centrifugal brakes just aren't as consistent as mag braking. That fact can't be argued. Why else would Shimano put mag braking on their BFS offerings? Simple answer is that consistent control is needed when tossing the light stuff, and mag brakes deliver that. I'm in no way throwing shade, just stating a fact.

Is this applies to Daiwa SV spools only?
I don't own the SV Boost spool yet, however Youtube video I print screaned below - makes me thinking of buying 2020 Met instead...

Funny you should mention the SV boost spool
I was messing around with it and the SV Non Boost spool
And then I looked and there was another consideration
I had a mag Z boost spool so I was

[hoohoorjoo]

Imho, if anyone says either one is superior to the other, then they are splitting hairs. There is plenty to like about either brand and it comes down to personal preference. I'm a Daiwa guy, because I like consistent control. This comes at the price of a slightly lessened distance, which Im ok with. Centrifugal brakes just aren't as consistent as mag braking. That fact can't be argued. Why else would Shimano put mag braking on their BFS offerings? Simple answer is that consistent control is needed when tossing the light stuff, and mag brakes deliver that. I'm in no way throwing shade, just stating a fact.

Is this applies to Daiwa SV spools only?
I don't own the SV Boost spool yet, however Youtube video I print screaned below - makes me thinking of buying 2020 Met instead...

Yes, I'm referring to recent models with SV, SV Boost and Mag-Z Boost. They require less effort to get distance out of, but the Shimano centrifugal brakes are just a little more free at the end of cast. The difference is very small, but it is noticeable just before splashdown.

[hoohoorjoo]

Imho, if anyone says either one is superior to the other, then they are splitting hairs. There is plenty to like about either brand and it comes down to personal preference. I'm a Daiwa guy, because I like consistent control. This comes at the price of a slightly lessened distance, which Im ok with. Centrifugal brakes just aren't as consistent as mag braking. That fact can't be argued. Why else would Shimano put mag braking on their BFS offerings? Simple answer is that consistent control is needed when tossing the light stuff, and mag brakes deliver that. I'm in no way throwing shade, just stating a fact.

What about their dc line like the slx dc xt 70? Does it exhibit consistent control? Is it better, worse, or same? ty

I can't speak to the DC braking, because the noise drives me nuts. I tried a couple different DC reels, but I just couldn't do it and sold them shortly after purchase.

[LowRange]

Imho, if anyone says either one is superior to the other, then they are splitting hairs. There is plenty to like about either brand and it comes down to personal preference. I'm a Daiwa guy, because I like consistent control. This comes at the price of a slightly lessened distance, which Im ok with. Centrifugal brakes just aren't as consistent as mag braking. That fact can't be argued. Why else would Shimano put mag braking on their BFS offerings? Simple answer is that consistent control is needed when tossing the light stuff, and mag brakes deliver that. I'm in no way throwing shade, just stating a fact.

Is this applies to Daiwa SV spools only?
I don't own the SV Boost spool yet, however Youtube video I print screaned below - makes me thinking of buying 2020 Met instead...

Yes, I'm referring to recent models with SV, SV Boost and Mag-Z Boost. They require less effort to get distance out of, but the Shimano centrifugal brakes are just a little more free at the end of cast. The difference is very small, but it is noticeable just before splashdown.

Pretty much this. Centrifugal will be more free at the end of the cast than any Daiwa braking system other than an HLC or Long Cast 3D. Shimano white block SVS is fast and free by nature and this braking profile in a Daiwa is more of a speciality with their normal braking profiles favoring a blend of distance and control. If you stand on the bank then centrifugal is the way to go. If you are in a boat of some kind I find I prefer Daiwa normal braking profiles for a blend of distance and control. I gotta be able to skip baits without fear of backlash. That's a requirement of mine. I have way too many docks and low hanging trees along my shorelines to be passing them by or merely pitching to them. Another thing I have come to prefer lately is an effortless and smooth cast and flight of the bait to targets. In this instance I have some to prefer non-dynamic brakes and a simple linear mag braking light weight spool is preferred. It does the same thing every time. If I put too little or too much into in cast its doesn't lose its mind and blow up. It just does what it does and sends the bait where I want it. Non boost SV spools will also behave like a linear mag brake spool as they will extend the inductor early in the cast and maintain it until the end in all but the lowest brake settings.

[Chode]

Imho, if anyone says either one is superior to the other, then they are splitting hairs. There is plenty to like about either brand and it comes down to personal preference. I'm a Daiwa guy, because I like consistent control. This comes at the price of a slightly lessened distance, which Im ok with. Centrifugal brakes just aren't as consistent as mag braking. That fact can't be argued. Why else would Shimano put mag braking on their BFS offerings? Simple answer is that consistent control is needed when tossing the light stuff, and mag brakes deliver that. I'm in no way throwing shade, just stating a fact.

What about their dc line like the slx dc xt 70? Does it exhibit consistent control? Is it better, worse, or same? ty

I can't speak to the DC braking, because the noise drives me nuts. I tried a couple different DC reels, but I just couldn't do it and sold them shortly after purchase.

haha no worries ty

[SSS]

The 2016 steez platform is super outdated, and Daiwa has been milking it as much as possible. Should have tested a zillion 2021 instead of wasting money on any steez.

[freelancer27]

The 2016 steez platform is super outdated, and Daiwa has been milking it as much as possible. Should have tested a zillion 2021 instead of wasting money on any steez.

What makes it outdated? While it is true that the current Steez and Zillion models are based on a frame design that originates from 2016, I personally think that there is little to improve on. If you go smaller (ie Steez CT model) you are sacrificing line capacity and even ergonomics.

I have many of the high end models of Shimano and Daiwa and I have to say that the haptics of the 2016 Steez frame are by far the best in the business, at least in my humble opinion.
I understand though that the frame might not as comfortable for smaller hands and hence some users might push for Daiwa to go smaller with their frames.

As someone that fishes 75% from the bank, I do prefer a decently sized spool to ensure I have enough line available for longer casts with heavier line. The 70 sized spools just do not cut it for me.


Between the 2016 Steez SV TW and the 2021 Zillion, I would still choose the Steez any day of the week. It is more refined and just an amazing all around reel. I do not see any other reel out there to offer that level of all around capability.


But hey, there are many choices out there for you to pick from!

[SSS]

The 2016 steez platform is super outdated, and Daiwa has been milking it as much as possible. Should have tested a zillion 2021 instead of wasting money on any steez.

What makes it outdated? While it is true that the current Steez and Zillion models are based on a frame design that originates from 2016, I personally think that there is little to improve on. If you go smaller (ie Steez CT model) you are sacrificing line capacity and even ergonomics.

I have many of the high end models of Shimano and Daiwa and I have to say that the haptics of the 2016 Steez frame are by far the best in the business, at least in my humble opinion.
I understand though that the frame might not as comfortable for smaller hands and hence some users might push for Daiwa to go smaller with their frames.

As someone that fishes 75% from the bank, I do prefer a decently sized spool to ensure I have enough line available for longer casts with heavier line. The 70 sized spools just do not cut it for me.


Between the 2016 Steez SV TW and the 2021 Zillion, I would still choose the Steez any day of the week. It is more refined and just an amazing all around reel. I do not see any other reel out there to offer that level of all around capability.


But hey, there are many choices out there for you to pick from!

In my opinion, the frame itself. Ever since they released the Steez CT, i wasn't sure why the standard steez tw is still a thing. Now that the Zillion is out, which is a small compact little reel, there is even less reason to bother with the 2016 steez frame, especially at the price they're still selling these for. This is like the 2013 Metanium frame that overstayed its welcome.

[Rodster14]

The Steez is too wide and uncomfortable in my opinion. I may keep it a while, but I am likely headed back to Shimano…

[Just_Bass]

The Steez is too wide and uncomfortable in my opinion. I may keep it a while, but I am likely headed back to Shimano…

You should really try Steez CT, Zillion SVTW or Alphas SVTW before go back to Shimano. I found the SV reel is a lot easier to control when switching weight from regular to light super finesse lure below 3/16oz. It is also better control in windy condition. The zillion even it taller profile which make the reel less comfortable on my left but with my right (dominant hand) it is not very bad at all. I gave Shimano last chance with new Shimano SLX DC XT 70, and every time I go back to use Alphas I ask myself why? I still have 20CQ100DC and 14CQ100 and I afraid to use.
The smoothness of the reel make me finesse fishing better and concentrate on the bite better.