Line conditioner?
Line conditioner?
Anyone using line conditioner like reelsnot, braid aid or the kvd line conditioner? Any real benefits or issues using these products?
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It definitely helps a bit with casting distance. It’s a pain to apply regularly, though, you need to refresh every other trip at least. Been using Braid Aid myself.
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I like it for fluoro and higher pound tests in copoly. It helps with line management for me.
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I use it in freshly spooled fluoro for the 1st two trips. It definitely helps tame the line. I'll saturate the fresh line liberally before the 1st cast. After the 1st cast, I'll hit it again to get the line underneath. Imo, the KVD product seems to work best. Works with mono too.
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Nice. Thanks for the feedback
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I use to use it. I found that any line when treated with a line conditioner only works to weaken the line tensile strength.
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I have used KVD Line and Lure Conditioner for at least twelve years with mono, fluoro and braid. The conditioner has "tamed" all lines and extended the life of each type of line extensively with no adverse effect.
An example is my main cranking reel (OG Conquest 101DC), which was spooled with braid in 2011. That braid is still functional, never had any break-offs, used a minimum of 2-8 times per month for both "fun" and tournament fishing. Yep, used for ten (10) years and not yet a candidate for replacement.
Before transitioning to braid exclusively in 2016, I was successfully using fluoro that was purchased 2009-2012.
The only time have replaced line, in the last twelve years, is when evaluating a new brand. A significant reason for my experience with line longevity is regular use of KVD line conditioner.
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An example is my main cranking reel (OG Conquest 101DC), which was spooled with braid in 2011. That braid is still functional, never had any break-offs, used a minimum of 2-8 times per month for both "fun" and tournament fishing. Yep, used for ten (10) years and not yet a candidate for replacement.
Before transitioning to braid exclusively in 2016, I was successfully using fluoro that was purchased 2009-2012.
The only time have replaced line, in the last twelve years, is when evaluating a new brand. A significant reason for my experience with line longevity is regular use of KVD line conditioner.
Regards,
Doc
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How significant was the weakening you experienced?slipperybob wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:56 pmI use to use it. I found that any line when treated with a line conditioner only works to weaken the line tensile strength.
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It's been years but at the time I had the big can of Reel Magic and big bottle of KVD Line and Lure.vncnt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:13 pmHow significant was the weakening you experienced?slipperybob wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:56 pmI use to use it. I found that any line when treated with a line conditioner only works to weaken the line tensile strength.
I did the treat the line overnight before I went fishing and treat it right before fishing.
I used Reel Magic. I saw from like minimum 10% overnight and around 35% after a week and more than 50% after a month on most copolymers line. I was able to hand break 80# braid with my hands surprisingly on a line I left untouched for like a few months. These were fresh lines, barely even fished. When I suspected it and went to crudely line test on the fish scale, I was able to confirm it with line before treatment and after treatment. Also bad move by me using it on other things only to find out plastics were peeling and discoloring off. Every line treated with Reel Magic needs to be replaced.
KVD, I used it for my ice fishing on Gamma High Performance 4# which usually breaks at a high 7#. After ice fishing it was breaking at below 4# strength. This was overnight treatment and left to dry on reel. In part I think the biggest influence is cold or freezing temps as I do fish early spring or late fall into the freezing air temps. Even with temps in the 40s F sometimes ice crystals still forms due to air flow. Tried it on other lines too. Cold weather tends to make lines more coily and stiff and KVD only made the lines weaker. Did my crude copoly line tests and also saw slightly weaker lines overnight to as much as 25% lost after a month. Fireline 6# that was breaking on me at about 8# on the knot was now breaking at 6# on the knot. With KVD, It seems like I needed to reapply in the midst of fishing. The slick line feel was great at the beginning.
After two years of using these products...it's a no for me.
slip bobbing is the laziest way to fish
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Thanks for the info.slipperybob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:52 amIt's been years but at the time I had the big can of Reel Magic and big bottle of KVD Line and Lure.vncnt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:13 pmHow significant was the weakening you experienced?slipperybob wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:56 pmI use to use it. I found that any line when treated with a line conditioner only works to weaken the line tensile strength.
I did the treat the line overnight before I went fishing and treat it right before fishing.
I used Reel Magic. I saw from like minimum 10% overnight and around 35% after a week and more than 50% after a month on most copolymers line. I was able to hand break 80# braid with my hands surprisingly on a line I left untouched for like a few months. These were fresh lines, barely even fished. When I suspected it and went to crudely line test on the fish scale, I was able to confirm it with line before treatment and after treatment. Also bad move by me using it on other things only to find out plastics were peeling and discoloring off. Every line treated with Reel Magic needs to be replaced.
KVD, I used it for my ice fishing on Gamma High Performance 4# which usually breaks at a high 7#. After ice fishing it was breaking at below 4# strength. This was overnight treatment and left to dry on reel. In part I think the biggest influence is cold or freezing temps as I do fish early spring or late fall into the freezing air temps. Even with temps in the 40s F sometimes ice crystals still forms due to air flow. Tried it on other lines too. Cold weather tends to make lines more coily and stiff and KVD only made the lines weaker. Did my crude copoly line tests and also saw slightly weaker lines overnight to as much as 25% lost after a month. Fireline 6# that was breaking on me at about 8# on the knot was now breaking at 6# on the knot. With KVD, It seems like I needed to reapply in the midst of fishing. The slick line feel was great at the beginning.
After two years of using these products...it's a no for me.
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I use KVD. The biggest noticable difference is on brand new flurocarbon line 15lb and up or anything other cheaper more stiff flurocarbon.
Im always careful of bombing my first cast fishing a newly spooled with fluro combo but I found with line conditioner sprayed on the day before that was no longer an issue.
Im always careful of bombing my first cast fishing a newly spooled with fluro combo but I found with line conditioner sprayed on the day before that was no longer an issue.
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