Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by goldrod » Sat May 14, 2022 6:30 am

dennis_rf wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 1:15 am
I can only judge from the RX10 ETES610MXF I got at home… as already said in the other thread I’m not impressed at all. Weight is great, balance is ok but still it doesn’t feel as crisp, floaty and sharp as my Point Blanks or other high end rods like NRX+. For that little power it should feel like a BFS Adrena when you whip it - as if it had no mass to accelerate. Should…
I have the same criticism with NFC blanks like the XRay SJ703, too, but haven’t handled a lot more of those (some 705IM/HM). Is that maybe less of a factor with long heavier rods as they’re all… heavy?

I‘m quite torn if I give the RX10s another chance. An actual power below the lightest Point Blank with still some backbone is still missing. Was I just unlucky with picking the ETES610MXF?


If I’m understanding you right , your saying that it’s lacking in the power dept?
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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by sarcazmo » Sat May 14, 2022 9:57 am

dennis_rf wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 1:15 am
I can only judge from the RX10 ETES610MXF I got at home… as already said in the other thread I’m not impressed at all. Weight is great, balance is ok but still it doesn’t feel as crisp, floaty and sharp as my Point Blanks or other high end rods like NRX+. For that little power it should feel like a BFS Adrena when you whip it - as if it had no mass to accelerate. Should…
I have the same criticism with NFC blanks like the XRay SJ703, too, but haven’t handled a lot more of those (some 705IM/HM). Is that maybe less of a factor with long heavier rods as they’re all… heavy?

I‘m quite torn if I give the RX10s another chance. An actual power below the lightest Point Blank with still some backbone is still missing. Was I just unlucky with picking the ETES610MXF?
I have the 74h and 72mh.

I was actually quite shocked at how thick the butt on the 74h is! Thicker than my PB761.

I will say I haven't felt anything that resonates quite like the point blanks. I think my xrays and point blank are equally as sensitive, the point blanks just feel a little different. Hard to explain.

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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by dennis_rf » Sun May 15, 2022 3:37 am

goldrod wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 6:30 am
If I’m understanding you right , your saying that it’s lacking in the power dept?
On one hand way less power than expected - they said in their video a M spinning blank equals a ML casting power but this is rather a L. But that’s okay once u know their power ratings.

It’s rather let’s call it the weight-to-power ratio. If you work it, whip it, it feels as heavy as a heavier powered blank, even tho on paper it’s light in weight. My 69 ML point blank feels lighter in hand and that’s a big bump up in power.

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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by dragon1 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:36 pm

Bump....damn Dennis, that is a gorgeous build.

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Oh yeah...the obvious "Blackened".
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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by dennis_rf » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:02 am

Maybe time to show my latest re-build

Kuying conqueror aka MSX blank 6‘8MLBF
Stripped because the grip was way too long for such a light rod and the micro Alconites were also too small.
Rough polished the blank until the cross wrap stops to get rid of the gloss finish

103g before, 89g after
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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by Hogsticker2 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:38 am

dennis_rf wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:02 am
Maybe time to show my latest re-build

Kuying conqueror aka MSX blank 6‘8MLBF
Stripped because the grip was way too long for such a light rod and the micro Alconites were also too small.
Rough polished the blank until the cross wrap stops to get rid of the gloss finish

103g before, 89g after
Size 4 Torzites
The Thunderbird! I like it. Previously in this thread, were you referring to the previous X10, or the relatively new Eternity blanks?

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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by dragon1 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:20 pm

dennis_rf wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:02 am
Maybe time to show my latest re-build

Kuying conqueror aka MSX blank 6‘8MLBF
Stripped because the grip was way too long for such a light rod and the micro Alconites were also too small.
Rough polished the blank until the cross wrap stops to get rid of the gloss finish

103g before, 89g after
Size 4 Torzites
That's a good time just waitin' to happen right thar. What's the taper like on that MSX blank?
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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by dennis_rf » Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:57 am

goldrod wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 6:30 am
If I’m understanding you right , your saying that it’s lacking in the power dept?
Digging this back up because I just took pictures for a friend who might take it off my hands as I still wasn’t able to find a reason to build this blank…. Maybe the picture helps someone with decision making

The weaker one is the said eternity RX10 ETES610MXF
The more powerful one for reference is an Adrena 6‘7 L BFS
Both loaded with 300g
The labeled power and action is day and night from what I expected
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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by dennis_rf » Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:10 pm

dragon1 wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:20 pm

That's a good time just waitin' to happen right thar. What's the taper like on that MSX blank?
Maybe better late than never…
Loaded with 300g
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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by dragon1 » Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:19 pm

dennis_rf wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:10 pm
dragon1 wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:20 pm

That's a good time just waitin' to happen right thar. What's the taper like on that MSX blank?
Maybe better late than never…
Loaded with 300g
Much appreciated Dennis
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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by Hogsticker2 » Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:40 pm

I remember this beauty. What reel seat and hood do you have on this?

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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by dennis_rf » Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:31 am

Trim and reel seats are all highest grade Chinese manufactured :D
So AliExpress mainly from 3 shops: Pro Bomesh, Rod Blank CRB Store & Noonroo Outdoor Store.

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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by Hogsticker2 » Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:25 am

dennis_rf wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:31 am
Trim and reel seats are all highest grade Chinese manufactured :D
So AliExpress mainly from 3 shops: Pro Bomesh, Rod Blank CRB Store & Noonroo Outdoor Store.
Nice!

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Re: Point Blank 701LXF - Project “Vader”

Post by dv1 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:06 pm

I picked up a couple eternity 68mxf blanks and found them way less powerful than expected as well. Looking at some database numbers, the MXF eternity blanks are significantly less powerful than the eternity ML powered blanks. I was quite disappointed in them since that was very unexpected.

I will probably do a BFS rod with it or maybe a drop shot rod.

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