What Knot?
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Re: What Knot?
I use the FG knot, it fast, strong and you can wind it on,
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- BARRAMANIAC
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Re: What Knot?
the FG is the best, very slim and goes through the guides and winds through level wind guides of reels if you require a long leader. have done some tests and the line breaks before the leader knot breaks. takes a little longer to tie but it is worth it.
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Re: What Knot?
Does it work well for thin/lighter test fluoro for fresh water?BARRAMANIAC wrote:the FG is the best, very slim and goes through the guides and winds through level wind guides of reels if you require a long leader. have done some tests and the line breaks before the leader knot breaks. takes a little longer to tie but it is worth it.
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Re: What Knot?
An FG knot is, by far, the strongest line junction knot of the three and a bit tinier that Alberto/Albrights and uni junction knots.
There are certainly better ways to tie it than the "hold the line in your teeth and let the rod fall away for tension." And, what makes the FG especially strong is that it is a plaited knot, not the more standard wraps where they rely on friction to hold it.
A really good Albright/Alberto knot tests stronger than a uni junction knot but not by much. One of the issues with the uni to uni knot is one of the tie sides is fluoro over braid, the other side is braid over fluoro. Braid cuts into fluoro very well, but not the other way around. When you tie an Alberto/Albright sort of knot, you are wrapping the braid over the fluro so it bites in very well.
I'd do FGs the night before, sort of a bench knot done best at home; but, out on the water (I fish in a kayak), I can tie an exceptional Improved Albright Knot in about a minute.
Learn all three, tie the one that you do best, have the most confidence in.
I bet 90% of the junction knots used at the most recent Bass Master Classic were Alberto types and uni junction knots, very few FGs. And, I don't recall seeing a single leader line break off or hearing of anyone losing a fish to a bad knot.
Tie it well and you'll do great!
Brad
There are certainly better ways to tie it than the "hold the line in your teeth and let the rod fall away for tension." And, what makes the FG especially strong is that it is a plaited knot, not the more standard wraps where they rely on friction to hold it.
A really good Albright/Alberto knot tests stronger than a uni junction knot but not by much. One of the issues with the uni to uni knot is one of the tie sides is fluoro over braid, the other side is braid over fluoro. Braid cuts into fluoro very well, but not the other way around. When you tie an Alberto/Albright sort of knot, you are wrapping the braid over the fluro so it bites in very well.
I'd do FGs the night before, sort of a bench knot done best at home; but, out on the water (I fish in a kayak), I can tie an exceptional Improved Albright Knot in about a minute.
Learn all three, tie the one that you do best, have the most confidence in.
I bet 90% of the junction knots used at the most recent Bass Master Classic were Alberto types and uni junction knots, very few FGs. And, I don't recall seeing a single leader line break off or hearing of anyone losing a fish to a bad knot.
Tie it well and you'll do great!
Brad
Re: What Knot?
uni to uni, haven't had a failure.
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See the knot test results on the spreadsheet listed here http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/ ... -progress/
PR knot is the strongest, followed by the FG. In practice, for everyday use, the FG probably wins out due to ease of tying. The Alberto is generally a lot weaker. The only true way to assess knots is to test them.
PR knot is the strongest, followed by the FG. In practice, for everyday use, the FG probably wins out due to ease of tying. The Alberto is generally a lot weaker. The only true way to assess knots is to test them.
Re: What Knot?
Yes, I use it all the time, but need the Daichii Knot Assist 2.0 tool for light leaders. Takes about 2 mins to tie and gives a super tiny knot in 10 lb leader and 6 lb braid.mark poulson wrote:Does it work well for thin/lighter test fluoro for fresh water?BARRAMANIAC wrote:the FG is the best, very slim and goes through the guides and winds through level wind guides of reels if you require a long leader. have done some tests and the line breaks before the leader knot breaks. takes a little longer to tie but it is worth it.
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Re: What Knot?
If I have time I try to use the FG knot. I'll tie my leaders the night before or prior to launching (when I fish from my kayak). If I'm on the water and need to retie quickly, I'll use a uni-to-uni knot.
Re: What Knot?
FG and PR knot ahead of time.
FG PR Hollow core splice or loop to loop for pelagics
If tying on the water Alberto knot.
Finding that the PR knot is easier for me to tie in light line than the FG.
Heavier stuff aquaholik's fg knot method is unbeatable. I can get an improved alberto tied in about 30-40 seconds.
2 mins with Aqua's fg.
Problem with on the water fg's and pr's...you need to really wrench on the knot to seat it properly....Gloves or cincng tools are needed with heavier fluros or monos.
FG PR Hollow core splice or loop to loop for pelagics
If tying on the water Alberto knot.
Finding that the PR knot is easier for me to tie in light line than the FG.
Heavier stuff aquaholik's fg knot method is unbeatable. I can get an improved alberto tied in about 30-40 seconds.
2 mins with Aqua's fg.
Problem with on the water fg's and pr's...you need to really wrench on the knot to seat it properly....Gloves or cincng tools are needed with heavier fluros or monos.
Re: What Knot?
I started using Albright. It's been very reliable. Small profile strong knot. I mainly use it for 10lb braid to 8 lb fluoro.
Re: What Knot?
don't forget about the FG knot, a touch more difficult to tie but one of the strongest for braid to flouro connections.
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Re: What Knot?
Seen so many FG knots fail that were tied by very competent fishermen, that it leaves me shaking my head No doubt it’s the strongest knot out there when tied correctly, but even then, I have seen so many failures after using it for a period of time. Use what works for you, and don’t change just because something looks or sounds good. I’ve been using a 9 turn Albright for years and NEVER break off at the leader knot. No doubt in my mind that it’s a weaker knot than the FG, but if I can’t break it on a straight pull when snagged, I’m not worried about a fish ever breaking it. I’m generally tying 30lb 832 to 14-20lb Shooter for most all my inshore needs.
- Impreza619
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Re: What Knot?
FG if you have time to tie, UNI to UNI if you are fishing under 40lb short leader and no pass through line, alberto if you need a quick fast connection.
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I'm a big fan of the FG, but recently switched to the modified Albright. I've had a couple/few FG knots fail and I know it was my fault, but darn. I always test the heck out of them prior to use. I guess it's a confidence thing now. I should try the Alberto as well..
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Re: What Knot?
Another vote for the FG. It takes some practice to get it right - but not a lot of practice. It's a pain the the butt to tie on 40lb and below mono/flouro so the albright might be better suited for that. But with heavy braid and heavy leader it has never failed me hauling GT off the reef. For Tuna I mostly use wind on's and will do a bimini to albright if I don't have a wind on. It doesn't come back through the guides well but if your soaking bait and not casting lures - its another knot that has never failed me.